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		<title>By: Yael</title>
		<link>http://www.chinesemedicinenotes.com/2008/05/07/barbara-kirschbaum/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Yael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorne,

Thank you for your wonderful comment.

Oh, I know of many wonderful teachers!!
Do you want the whole list? :)

I agree with B.K, Clavey's book is a very important book that doesn't get enough attention, at least here in Israel. I think I had only one teacher who mentioned it.

Keep up the good work and take care,
Yael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorne,</p>
<p>Thank you for your wonderful comment.</p>
<p>Oh, I know of many wonderful teachers!!<br />
Do you want the whole list? <img src='http://www.chinesemedicinenotes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree with B.K, Clavey&#8217;s book is a very important book that doesn&#8217;t get enough attention, at least here in Israel. I think I had only one teacher who mentioned it.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work and take care,<br />
Yael</p>
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		<title>By: Lorne Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorne Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the pleasure of organizing a 3 day Tongue workshop with Barbara in the Fall of 2006.  She really is a "Cool Chik" and the information she gives is priceless.  I love her lecture style of using mostly case studies and thousands of westerner Tongue pictures.  She is coming back to North America in January 2009  to one day on Menopause and two days on Tongues.  It is being held in San Diego California. http://www.prodseminars.com

If you know of other great teachers please let me know.  It is great when you can find someone who can transmit their knowledge to you the way Kirschbaum can.  She gave some good advice after looking at my tongue and talking with me when I saw her in 2006.  One was to lose some weight and exercise (I will be seeing her again in  San Diego and I am sure she will notice i am actually a few pounds more)  and if you really want to deeply master TCM foundations and excel in clinic then do the following:

1. Take pictures of all your patients tongues AND every three months review the past files and learn from your clinical experience as to what is working and what is not

2. Read Steven Clavey's Fluid and Physiology text cover to cover.  She said if you read this book (do not worry about the title of the book) you will understand TCM at a key level

3. Read her two Tongue atlas books


Not only am I a few pounds heavier but I still have not read the books she suggested... I do own them.  wait! I did do one thing she suggested.  She though t here needs to be more post graduate TCM education.... good courses.  I did continue to develop this with Pro D Seminars (www.prodseminars.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of organizing a 3 day Tongue workshop with Barbara in the Fall of 2006.  She really is a &#8220;Cool Chik&#8221; and the information she gives is priceless.  I love her lecture style of using mostly case studies and thousands of westerner Tongue pictures.  She is coming back to North America in January 2009  to one day on Menopause and two days on Tongues.  It is being held in San Diego California. <a href="http://www.prodseminars.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.prodseminars.com</a></p>
<p>If you know of other great teachers please let me know.  It is great when you can find someone who can transmit their knowledge to you the way Kirschbaum can.  She gave some good advice after looking at my tongue and talking with me when I saw her in 2006.  One was to lose some weight and exercise (I will be seeing her again in  San Diego and I am sure she will notice i am actually a few pounds more)  and if you really want to deeply master TCM foundations and excel in clinic then do the following:</p>
<p>1. Take pictures of all your patients tongues AND every three months review the past files and learn from your clinical experience as to what is working and what is not</p>
<p>2. Read Steven Clavey&#8217;s Fluid and Physiology text cover to cover.  She said if you read this book (do not worry about the title of the book) you will understand TCM at a key level</p>
<p>3. Read her two Tongue atlas books</p>
<p>Not only am I a few pounds heavier but I still have not read the books she suggested&#8230; I do own them.  wait! I did do one thing she suggested.  She though t here needs to be more post graduate TCM education&#8230;. good courses.  I did continue to develop this with Pro D Seminars (www.prodseminars.com)</p>
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		<title>By: Yael</title>
		<link>http://www.chinesemedicinenotes.com/2008/05/07/barbara-kirschbaum/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Yael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,

Regarding the books- I think the Atlas of the tongue diagnosis are the only books by B.K. That's what I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,</p>
<p>Regarding the books- I think the Atlas of the tongue diagnosis are the only books by B.K. That&#8217;s what I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that's really something. Reminds me of when a friend who does auricular acupuncture could tell that I'd had breast surgery just from looking at my ear!

We spend a fair amount of time on tongues in both my schools, but I doubt it will ever get to the level Kirschbaum enjoys. Does she have any other books besides the 2-volume set? 

Not to derail the topic here, but honestly -- ears, tongues... one would really have to rethink their position on palm reading as well. If any part of the body is a representation or manifestation of the body as a whole, you could probably get fairly expert at reading anything if you just knew where to draw the connections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s really something. Reminds me of when a friend who does auricular acupuncture could tell that I&#8217;d had breast surgery just from looking at my ear!</p>
<p>We spend a fair amount of time on tongues in both my schools, but I doubt it will ever get to the level Kirschbaum enjoys. Does she have any other books besides the 2-volume set? </p>
<p>Not to derail the topic here, but honestly &#8212; ears, tongues&#8230; one would really have to rethink their position on palm reading as well. If any part of the body is a representation or manifestation of the body as a whole, you could probably get fairly expert at reading anything if you just knew where to draw the connections.</p>
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		<title>By: Yael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello my pretty :),

Most schools I know don't really say too much about tongue diagnosis. Most of them talk about the pulse and stick to that, giving it more emphesis. A lot more emphesis.

Barbara Kirschbaum showed us with amazing photos how she could diagnose even cancer (!) just from looking at the tongue.

A friend of mine was amazed by her ability to diagnose- she looked at his wife's tongue for a bit and told her intimate things about her relationship with her mother (!!) and about other aspects of her life. My friend and his wife were amazed by how right on the point she was.

I know that I myself never gave tongue diagnosis too much attention. It seemed silly to me.
I was very very wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello my pretty :),</p>
<p>Most schools I know don&#8217;t really say too much about tongue diagnosis. Most of them talk about the pulse and stick to that, giving it more emphesis. A lot more emphesis.</p>
<p>Barbara Kirschbaum showed us with amazing photos how she could diagnose even cancer (!) just from looking at the tongue.</p>
<p>A friend of mine was amazed by her ability to diagnose- she looked at his wife&#8217;s tongue for a bit and told her intimate things about her relationship with her mother (!!) and about other aspects of her life. My friend and his wife were amazed by how right on the point she was.</p>
<p>I know that I myself never gave tongue diagnosis too much attention. It seemed silly to me.<br />
I was very very wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did she elaborate on what she means by "the way tongue diagnosis is taught around the world is wrong"? Does she mean by other TCM practitioners, or allopathic pracitioners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did she elaborate on what she means by &#8220;the way tongue diagnosis is taught around the world is wrong&#8221;? Does she mean by other TCM practitioners, or allopathic pracitioners?</p>
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